Hands played at the Palmerston North Bridge Club published here for discussion and question and answer.
Any bidding shown is an actual auction and not necessarily recommended.
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Wednesday, 9 September 2015
Senior/Senior Reserve 8/8/2015 Hand 14
Board 14 East Deals None Vul
♠
K Q J 9 8 5
♥
7 4
♦
7 6 3 2
♣
6
♠
7 4 2
♥
A K 6 5
♦
A 8 4
♣
8 5 3
N
W
E
S
♠
A 6 3
♥
Q 10 9 3 2
♦
J 9
♣
Q 7 2
♠
10
♥
J 8
♦
K Q 10 5
♣
A K J 10 9 4
NS 2♠; EW 2♥; NS 3♦; EW 1N; NS 2♣; Par +100: EW 3♥×−1
At another table the bidding went p 1C p 1S; p 2D p 3D ap
a) Is 2D a reverse? It was claimed that as 1C showed only 3+ it wasn't natural and therefore 2D wasn't a reverse over a natural club suit. 1C is in the system played 3+ because of the playing of a 5 card spade system. However the only time where a 3 card club suit is bid is when the hand shape is 4=3=3=3 and hcp is 15+, in which case the rebid is NT - the inference is that any other bid shows natural clubs thus 2D is a reverse over a natural club. Also if u had a 4 card diamond suit u would never bid 1C with 3 clubs. b) Is the hand worth a reverse? I don't think so as if pard can't move over 2C then 3NT/5C is pretty unlikely. c) If it is worth a reverse then what to do when pard raises to 3D. If u pass despite having found a fit isn't that really saying the hand wasn't worth a reverse in the first place? d) Is 3D forcing?
The auction shown was using Precision. The 2S response was natural and not forcing.
To answer your questions:
a. Yes 2D is a reverse in all standard systems. That means it shows around 16+ hcp and is forcing for one round. Many of the North American experts seem to play reverses even stronger than that.
If you play a 3+ (or 2+ or probably even 1+) club then you rebid no trumps next time or raise partner's suit, you do not introduce a new suit of your own (especially not at the two-level) whenever you have the hand with short clubs. You bid suits more naturally when you have real clubs - five or more.
b. No. See the comment above about North American experts. With six-four you can shade a point or so. It would be closer if the hJ was in diamonds or with sJx hx so you had a semi-fitting value for partner.
c. I think you are allowed to pass 3D in standard methods. I suspect standard is that any simple bid by responder (not fourth suit forcing) is not forcing. Therefore you need to use fourth suit or jump to force as responder.
Many more experienced players play some sort of system to identify weak hands (or alternatively strong hands) with one particular bid. For example 2NT is always weak, other bids are all forcing to game.
At another table the bidding went p 1C p 1S; p 2D p 3D ap
ReplyDeletea) Is 2D a reverse? It was claimed that as 1C showed only 3+ it wasn't natural and therefore 2D wasn't a reverse over a natural club suit. 1C is in the system played 3+ because of the playing of a 5 card spade system. However the only time where a 3 card club suit is bid is when the hand shape is 4=3=3=3 and hcp is 15+, in which case the rebid is NT - the inference is that any other bid shows natural clubs thus 2D is a reverse over a natural club. Also if u had a 4 card diamond suit u would never bid 1C with 3 clubs.
b) Is the hand worth a reverse? I don't think so as if pard can't move over 2C then 3NT/5C is pretty unlikely.
c) If it is worth a reverse then what to do when pard raises to 3D. If u pass despite having found a fit isn't that really saying the hand wasn't worth a reverse in the first place?
d) Is 3D forcing?
The auction shown was using Precision. The 2S response was natural and not forcing.
ReplyDeleteTo answer your questions:
a. Yes 2D is a reverse in all standard systems. That means it shows around 16+ hcp and is forcing for one round. Many of the North American experts seem to play reverses even stronger than that.
If you play a 3+ (or 2+ or probably even 1+) club then you rebid no trumps next time or raise partner's suit, you do not introduce a new suit of your own (especially not at the two-level) whenever you have the hand with short clubs. You bid suits more naturally when you have real clubs - five or more.
b. No. See the comment above about North American experts. With six-four you can shade a point or so. It would be closer if the hJ was in diamonds or with sJx hx so you had a semi-fitting value for partner.
c. I think you are allowed to pass 3D in standard methods. I suspect standard is that any simple bid by responder (not fourth suit forcing) is not forcing. Therefore you need to use fourth suit or jump to force as responder.
Many more experienced players play some sort of system to identify weak hands (or alternatively strong hands) with one particular bid. For example 2NT is always weak, other bids are all forcing to game.
d. see c.