Hands played at the Palmerston North Bridge Club published here for discussion and question and answer.
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at another table: 1c p 1h p 2c p 2d p 2nt p 3h ap Too questions; a) is 3H forcing? West has reversed. If not forcing does east have values to bid game given west must have a 6-4 shape? I would argue those queens in partners suit look very promising and 1st/2nd round controls in the side suits indicates a forward push even if 3H is NF
There are some who have the agreement that any bid over partner's 2NT in these sorts of auctions is forcing. On the other hand a playable agreement is that all bids in suits previously bid are non-forcing. If you are not sure about the right game or want to show a good hand then bid the fourth suit. It is probably possible to play some other agreement about which bids are forcing. You really need to have discussed these situations in advance of them coming up at the table.
While I agree it is best to have an agreement, in the absence of such, you have to resort to first principles. Here I would say, west could have bid 3H over 2C to show a 6 card suit and invite values. So why introduce diamonds and then deny pard the opportunity to play in diamonds at the 3 level, ie a barrier breech, if all he has is an invite hand? I think west must be saying, "now that I have described my shape u pick where to play". Pretty difficult for pard to pick right if all he has heard is an amorphous 3S.
at another table: 1c p 1h p 2c p 2d p 2nt p 3h ap
ReplyDeleteToo questions; a) is 3H forcing? West has reversed. If not forcing does east have values to bid game given west must have a 6-4 shape? I would argue those queens in partners suit look very promising and 1st/2nd round controls in the side suits indicates a forward push even if 3H is NF
I am not sure that you call this a reverse.
ReplyDeleteThere are some who have the agreement that any bid over partner's 2NT in these sorts of auctions is forcing. On the other hand a playable agreement is that all bids in suits previously bid are non-forcing. If you are not sure about the right game or want to show a good hand then bid the fourth suit. It is probably possible to play some other agreement about which bids are forcing. You really need to have discussed these situations in advance of them coming up at the table.
While I agree it is best to have an agreement, in the absence of such, you have to resort to first principles. Here I would say, west could have bid 3H over 2C to show a 6 card suit and invite values. So why introduce diamonds and then deny pard the opportunity to play in diamonds at the 3 level, ie a barrier breech, if all he has is an invite hand? I think west must be saying, "now that I have described my shape u pick where to play". Pretty difficult for pard to pick right if all he has heard is an amorphous 3S.
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